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 Post subject: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:28 am 
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Hey guys, Im looking to buy a mini soon, this will be my first 'project car'. I have extremely limited skills and am hoping to learn on the job...
Any advice on what i should look for as an entry level? Im quite young (19) so money is a limitation but im hoping to sell my current 05 accord to fund this. This will hopefully be my daily drive once completed (is this possible?). Any advice on models, price range, places to look etc would be appreciated!

New to the forums, apologies if this is posted in the wrong section!


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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:40 am 
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I have two tips for a daily driver. Keep the motor standard, and make sure it has disc brakes. A standard motor will be a lot more reliable, and disc brakes means no adjusting (with exception of the rear drums which don't need attention very often).

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:52 am 
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First off, if you can add your location to your profile it'll help people giving you advice.

I think the best thing to do is go along to a local mini meet/event and have a look at the different types of cars and see which ones you like. Some people love the original "roundnose" mini, some the square "Clubman" and you also have the later Japanese Rover imports.

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:00 am 
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thanks guys, updated my profile now.

What do you mean by standard motor? like the original?
Ive heard of people putting bike engines in there mini's, is this a popular/easy thing to do?
Ive always loved all minis so as long as its reliable im happy.

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:32 am 
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Suggest you go to this event, which is 8 weeks away. Should be lots of Minis to view and chat about with the owners.

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=90691

As you are in Melbourne membership of the VMCI may be worthwhile for you. Cars for sale appear in the club magazine.

http://www.mini.org.au/

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:13 pm 
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Firstly Welcome to Ausmini, when you say 'project car' what exactly are you thinking of. The cars and projects completed by the members on this forum are vary varied and range from a quick respray and engine tune right up to a full nut and bolt restoration to near new original condition right or an engine conversions, supercharger, turbo charged, 16v head. You name it, it has been done by someone on here. If you give us more of an idea what project or what work you are prepared to do it will help.

Based on your comment that you are fairly inexperienced my advise would be to buy the most complete and finished car you can afford. Pay particular attention to bodywork as this can often be the trickiest and most expensive to repair, unless you want to spend lots of $ and hours stripping back, cutting out rust and welding, filling and painting then try and get a solid rust free car. I agree with the comments regarding disc brakes but if you cant find a car with them they can be retrofitted (you just need to budget for it). If money is limited then you may want to consider a later clubman style mini as these are not as expensive as the earlier round nose style. Joining the mini club, as well as going to a few shows is great advice. Get out there and talk to the owners they are usually more than happy to tell you all about their cars and give their opinions on whats good and not.

My last piece of advice for now is, take someone else with you when you go to view a car (preferably someone who knows mini's) and don't buy the first car you see.

Give us an idea of your budget and what work you want to do and i'm sure you will get lots more advice.

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:29 pm 
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Thanks heaps for all the info guys, i really appreciate it. Im hoping to find something that is drive-ablefor under 5k (with body work reasonable) I dont have experience so a full restoration would be out of the question!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:34 pm 
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The September issue of the VMCI magazine (MiniMag) lists a Clubman Mini for sale for $2,500. Other than stating it's green in colour there are no other year or model details, or condition, but the accompanying picture of the car shows it to be complete. I can PM you the seller's email address if you wish.

Of course the usual online sites, such as Gumtree, eBay and Carsales.com are a good starting point to get a feel for prices and condition.

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:46 pm 
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That would be great if you could pm the link! thanks heaps. Also what transmission would you reccomend, i have seen some auto's but not sure how reliable they are in comparison to the manuals?


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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:41 pm 
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jessupmini wrote:
What do you mean by standard motor? like the original?
Ive heard of people putting bike engines in there mini's, is this a popular/easy thing to do?


By standard motor, I mean one that hasn't been modified. Don't even acknowledge the thought of an engine conversion, and bike engined Mini's will never make it on the road in Australia.

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That would be great if you could pm the link! thanks heaps. Also what transmission would you reccomend, i have seen some auto's but not sure how reliable they are in comparison to the manuals?


A massive majority of Mini's are manual. Buy a manual unless you really want an auto.

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:00 pm 
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jessupmini wrote:
Hey guys, Im looking to buy a mini soon, this will be my first 'project car'. I have extremely limited skills and am hoping to learn on the job...
Any advice on what i should look for as an entry level? Im quite young (19) so money is a limitation but im hoping to sell my current 05 accord to fund this. This will hopefully be my daily drive once completed (is this possible?). Any advice on models, price range, places to look etc would be appreciated!

New to the forums, apologies if this is posted in the wrong section!


Sup Jess :?: :lol: my advice is to try and get as complete a car as you can...preferably with matching numbers...and don't overlook cheap 850s or Clubmans as a way of getting started.

Most of all, think safety and have fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:27 pm 
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Most are 4sp manuals. I've never driven (or even seen in person, I think) the auto box before. Some people love them, but I've heard they're a bit like towing a boat performance-wise. They're not common, so parts and repairs for the autos can be expensive.

My general advice when looking at a mini would be this:

- Check for rust: Earlier minis are often less rusty than the later Australian ones, as Leyland stopped roto-dipping to cut costs. Common areas for rust are in the boot under the spare wheel, under the battery (also in the boot), the footwells (front and back), the roof sills, the bottom of the doors and the a-panels (just in front of the doors, they often rust down the bottom). You can expect some rust - it's a mini. But if it's just surface rust, or on an easily replaced panel, don't worry too much.

- Check your brakes: Drum brakes work fine so long as they are looked after, but you will need to adjust your front drums at least as often as you change your oil. You can change to discs later if you like, but they're not cheap - about $1000 or so. If you can get a mini with front discs, much better. The 7.5 cooper discs are more than enough for most minis. If there's no brake booster, you will need a fair bit of pedal pressure to get it to stop, but if it does pull up when pressed hard, and it pulls up straight, you're onto a winner.

- Everybody want a 1275 engine - but getting a decent 1275 mini will be more than your budget unless you're very lucky. The 998 and 1098 engines are both good engines, but are not hugely powerful (although with a bit of money, they can be). They both have the same block, the 1098 is just stroked. The850 engines aren't much good for modding, they are slow and steay, but will work just fine, unless you want to do a lot of highway work. Just check for the normal car things here - does it blow smoke,does it overheat etc. If you want to swap in a 1275 later, you will need disc brakes. 1275 engines are getting quite expensive, but they are pretty much a straight swap. Engine conversions (like bike engines, as you mentioned) will cost far more and take a lot more time, but you will have a very fast mini by the end of it. I don't know of any road-legal bike engine conversions. There are several toyota, honda and suzuki conversions, but each one is the result of years and several thousand dollars worth of work.

- The manual gearboxes wear easily if they're not treated right. In particular, check if it grinds when changing from 3rd to 2nd. That is the first wear indicator of the gearbox, and to fix it, it's and engine-out job. The gear lever is pretty sloppy at the best of times, so expect that.

- Almost all minis will leak a bit of oil, so don't pass one off because it leaks a little. Some leaked straight from the factory.


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 Post subject: Re: Need advice!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:03 pm 
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Irish Yobbo wrote:
... as Leyland stopped roto-dipping to cut costs.

To be precise, when production moved from Victoria Park to Enfield at the end of 1974 the Mini & Moke body assembly jigs, welding monorails and some other equipment was relocated, but the Rotodip, Paint Shop and other items that couldn't be easily moved were dismantled for scrap. I guess you could call that "cutting costs". :)

Back to the real topic, that's a good assessment and set of recommendations by Irish Yobbo.

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