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 Post subject: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:55 pm 
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I took my cooper s for a good 4 hour run today and it is running rich which I thought it was, so I want to put a new kit through the carbies and get the mixture right. I have been told I have 1 1/2 su carbs but I want to be sure before ordering the kit how can I tel what sort and size carbs i have and what sort of kits should I get, just gaskets and main jet or a complete rebuild kit and if so where from
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 Post subject: Re: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:49 pm 
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You can tell from the bolt pattern where they bolt onto the manifold (at least for HS type carbs, I'm not sure about the HIF series).

Two bolts on each one in a vertical configuration = 1 1/4"
Two bolts on each one in a diagonal configuration = 1 1/2"
Four bolts in a square configuration = 1 3/4"

Check out this link in the how to's for the gaskets which should clear up what I said above.: http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=82577.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:04 pm 
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Another method is to measure the diameter of the carby inlet.
All spares are available from Fabre Australia in Sydney, just phone them and they will help. If needed you can send them a photo of the carb and they can identify it for you.

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 Post subject: Re: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:48 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:51 pm 
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Another method is to measure the diameter of the carby inlet.
All spares are available from Fabre Australia in Sydney, just phone them and they will help. If needed you can send them a photo of the carb and they can identify it for you.

Measure the outlet, not the inlet. For example a 1-1/2" HS4 is only 35mm inlet (not 38.1= 1.5") but the outlet is 1.5".

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 Post subject: Re: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:54 pm 
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SU carbs are actually quite easy to tune once you know how, provided they are in good nick. It might be worth taking it somewhere that knows minis and asking them to give it a tune - you'll just pay for the labour, so it won't be expensive.

They could also tell you if they need rebuilding. It won't hurt to get a rebuild kit of course, but it may be just fine as it is, and just needs a tune.


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 Post subject: Re: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:14 am 
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Thanks everyone for your help, they haven't been touch for 25 years so might be best to do a rebuild kit I think


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If you have wear in the spindles, it'd be worth getting the complete rebuild kit and getting them rebushed. I got the full rebuild kit for mine from SU Midel (aka Fabre).

http://www.sumidel.com/index.html

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:26 pm 
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Thanks Timmy will look into it


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:25 pm 
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I have H4s (1-1/2", vertical stud pattern) on a 12A309 manifold

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 Post subject: Re: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:42 am 
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Thanks again everyone for your help, I'm pulling carbs out and doing a rebuild and I want to clean the carbs up, what is best way to make them nice and clean ?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:02 am 
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I've seen some good info on here about parts cleaning, soaking the parts in degreaser diluted with water even a vinegar solution I think. One bloke even used the dish washer! If you use the search feature and use those words "parts, cleaning, carbys" loads of reading will come up.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:12 am 
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I've heard lemon juice works well for soaking carbs but I've not tried it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:13 am 
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Boiling them in lemon juice works too apparently :wink: .


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 Post subject: Re: 1 1/2 SU carbs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:01 pm 
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I used a dishwasher.
Gets them really clean but turns them almost black.
I would get them Soda blasted next time.

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