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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:56 pm 
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Next time you're out on a drive in the country, take a drum with you. A lot of old country servos have bulk kero, or try a refinery outlet.



Just like the one in the background of this pic :wink: , Geeez , haven't seen one of those since the 80's :shock: :lol: .

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Try storing stuff like that at petrol stations today I reckon the bomb squad would be called and a 5 km exclusion zone enforced just for a tank of kero and what every is in the tank in the corner


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:45 pm 
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In 1970 a petrol refill for the Cooper S involved filling a large metal jug with methyl benzine stored in a 20 gallon drum on the forecourt, then carrying it across to the car and adding half to each tank, finally topping-up with super grade petrol. All this was done while navigating around those customers and staff who were sucking on a fag.

Methyl benzine was lethal at stripping the duco so you needed to be careful decanting.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:34 pm 
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In 1970 a petrol refill for the Cooper S involved filling a large metal jug with methyl benzine stored in a 20 gallon drum on the forecourt, then carrying it across to the car and adding half to each tank, finally topping-up with super grade petrol. All this was done while navigating around those customers and staff who were sucking on a fag.

Methyl benzine was lethal at stripping the duco so you needed to be careful decanting.



That brings back memories. I was doing exactly that in the early 70's with my then MkII

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:36 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:44 pm 
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Methyl Benzine, Toluol, Toluene, etc.

Methyl Benzine..
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Is also known as Toluol...
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Back when I was racing, at one stage I had a small deal with Ampol and got given drums of Toluene and this chart...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:52 pm 
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Warning, don't use Methyl Benzine/Toluol/Toluene/Paint Thinners, etc. as a degreaser, you will either burn to death or get cancer and die a slow horrible death.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:01 pm 
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Warning, don't use Methyl Benzine/Toluol/Toluene/Paint Thinners, etc. as a degreaser, you will either burn to death or get cancer and die a slow horrible death.
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Geez, you make it seem so bad...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:13 pm 
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It's not all bad, you can use it to remove grease from your best jeans before your wife discovers it.
Good carby clean too.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:35 pm 
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When I was searching kero for a heater at work I came up with this place for bulk heating oil. from memory it was about $2 per ltr.

Rapid Oil Distributors
Oil Refinery
Address: 15 Deniehy St, Clyde NSW 2142
Phone:(02) 9897 5264

Having said that I just use diesel.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:38 pm 
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winabbey wrote:
In 1970 a petrol refill for the Cooper S involved filling a large metal jug with methyl benzine stored in a 20 gallon drum on the forecourt, then carrying it across to the car and adding half to each tank, finally topping-up with super grade petrol. All this was done while navigating around those customers and staff who were sucking on a fag.

Methyl benzine was lethal at stripping the duco so you needed to be careful decanting.


My dad used to the same thing one tank of super and the other tank was methyl benzine he used to get his cooper s worked on at the police mechanic shop in the Sydney city which was around the corner from his job back then his cooper s was police spec but with out all the special stamps even the police had troubles catching him in there cooper s's and never got caught for a fine


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:53 am 
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I was getting kero in 25 litre drums from the local sheltered workshop. They bought it in bulk and put it into 1L containers for Bunnings and Mitre 10 to sell, but seem to have gone out of business. It was about $2 a litre.

Next time I'll try to track down the low-odour stuff. Ordinary kero stinks really badly, I wear gauntlets and an apron to try to keep the stench off my clothes.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:11 am 
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Toluene or methyl benzene is not carcinogenic. Besides having a great Octane Number, it is a brilliant solvent. It WILL dissolve fuel lines and rubber gaskets etc if used in some of the ratios mentioned above. Ditto Benzene, however Benzene IS carcinogenic...

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Toluene might not give you cancer, but I still wouldn't go breathing much of the fumes in! We use it at work occasionally, but only under the fume hood.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:10 am 
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Hi Timmy, I grew up sniffing the stuff with work (Petroleum Chemist) and seem ok so far (Having said that, people think I'm not normal haha!)
Having said that, Benzene was already banished from the lab in 1980 when I started my degree..

An afterthought, if people have questions regarding fuel Octane properties and performance etc feel free to ask. I maintain/ operate/ overhaul refinery Octane Engines so I guess I know what I'm talking about. A lot of what I read is, well, rubbish..

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:25 am 
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We just follow the SDS from the manufacturer, don't want to upset all the safety people these days...

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