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 Post subject: Timing Light
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:04 pm 
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Hi All,
My trusty Lucas timing light gave up on me last week - that is to say I broke it.
What is the go to for a replacement for the Classic mini these days?
Something with dial back and possibly dwell angle measurement.
I know I have seen recommendations in the past but cant find them.
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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:14 pm 
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I use the Innova 5568 and it costs around $150. There is a 3568 as well for $100 but it has less options.


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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:58 pm 
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Defo get a dial back, dwell may be useful if you dont have other dwell meters. Not sure what brand mine is but it is not dwell 9nly dial back. Will look when shed is not an oven, mid next week?

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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:11 pm 
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There aren't really many options other than the Innova 5568 or one of its rebrands. I ordered one as another brand, the box actually said Innova. When I opened it the timing light itself says Toolpro (SCA).

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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:35 am 
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Found the Innova 5568 on line - looks to be about $300 for the genuine Innova.

There are several "replicas" available like the Equus which is around $150 on Ebay. - Advertised as the Innova Equus but is similar but different.

I am tempted to go with the "replica" as it is only for occasional use.

Any views or recommendations on the cheaper options?


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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:07 am 
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I have the Innova 3568 which is around the $100 range. The only features it doesn’t have compared to the 5568 is dwell and voltage, but that’s not really necessary if you have electronic ignition (you can also buy a multimeter that does dwell or a dwell meter)

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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:38 am 
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On Amazon Oz ATM...


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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:45 pm 
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I believe all those timing lights which look the same are identical. That's why I went on eBay and bought the cheapest one like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:51 pm 
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Saving a little bit you could buy from one of these options:

Onlineautoparts - I think there is a discount if you sign up too.
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Ebay - both these listings allow you to use an ebay discount code to take $10 off the price.

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I have no experience with those eBay sellers but Onlineautoparts send out quickly.

I just noticed your amazon listing is being sold by them. You'll get it cheaper from their website.


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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:14 am 
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Interesting, the Amazon one and OnlineAutoparts one look to have two different faces.
The Amozon one is clearly branded as Innova, while the other is not so obvious.
Regardless, I ordered the Amazon one.
Thanks all for your input.


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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:10 am 
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IndigoBlueCooperS wrote:
Interesting, the Amazon one and OnlineAutoparts one look to have two different faces.
The Amozon one is clearly branded as Innova, while the other is not so obvious.
Regardless, I ordered the Amazon one.
Thanks all for your input.


Amazon uses "generic" pictures for each item. The same item can be sold by many sellers all over the world. The Amazon one is coming from onlineautoparts so you'll get the same thing as the onlineautoparts website.

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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:37 am 
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I've had a couple of the $100 equus enova ones. Work great.
A sure way to kill them though is put the + lead onto the - side of the coil by mistake. As a mate did (he bought me another).
Safer to connect it elsewhere...!

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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 4:53 pm 
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G'day,

Refreshing an older thread instead of starting a new one and would like some advice please about which timing light to buy in case there are newer ones or different ones on the market now.

In Minnie, the little 850 has a 25D distributor and I'm running electronic ignition in it. I have a set of points etc in the boot in case the electronic module fails but so far so good. All else being equal, I'll stick to electronic ignition in the future.
When the motor was rebuilt, the bloke who did it said not to worry about the vacuum advance and just blank it off. So that's how it's been since and I've done about 3,500 miles in it.
When I first got her on the road, I has a Mini specialist do the initial tuning (timing, mixtures etc) and up until now, I haven't changed any of those settings but I thought I'd check the ignition timing just to see if it's still ok. Hence the need for a timing light.

Earlie in this thread, the Innova 5568 or Innova 3568 seems to be the most common. There was also mention of the Innova Equus and from what I can find, it looks like the 5568 and 3568 are Equus ones.

https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/prod ... JqEALw_wcB

https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/prod ... KdEALw_wcB

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/123901471276


I don't mind spending the $ on the 5568 - I'd just like to get one that will do me in the future if I decide to go with points etc.

After I get a light, there's a fair chance I'll be starting a thread on how to check the timing if I get into trouble :D :D

Thanks Rocky


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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 5:27 pm 
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A couple of thoughts, you really should lock off the vac advance in the dissy if not using. Just blanking the intake pipe still allows the advance to move and vibrate and can alter advance throughout the rev range, not a desirable effect.
Any decent dial back timing light will be good. I am not a huge fan of tha all singing all dancing electronic ones but others like them, mine is an analogue but dial back is the key

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 Post subject: Re: Timing Light
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 6:46 pm 
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The 5568 is good as you can read the dwell setting, which is ideal for points (or you can get a separate dwell meter on a good automotive multimeter)

I don't see any downsides to running vacuum advance. It gives more advance at part throttle, which gives better performance and economy & also keeps the exhaust valves cooler. At full throttle it gives an identical timing curve

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