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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:27 pm 
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I'm new here. What a cool resource. This place should be just the amount of inspiration I need to get my project finished. (Or at least running)

I have a 76 leyland S that hasn't run for many years. I bought it as an unfinished project. It's engine wasn't in it when I got it but had been rebuilt by the previous owner. It has an 1100 engine which I have since put a 12G295 head on but that was 3 years ago and it has never run. I've read about people getting engines running on the floor and I wonder what is required. I want to test it before it goes into the car in case it needs to come back out again. Will it deafen me and anyone else in the garage if it does run.

I was thinking about putting the bare engine in the car then assembling the cooling system, electrics, carbie, fuel pump, dizzy exhaust ect while in the engine bay. (that is the way I did it when I was 16, 12 years ago) I've read on this forum that people suggest taking out and putting in the complete unit. I don't have an engine crane just a block and tackle. So adjustments have to be made by moving the car, not the engine. How hard is it?
How much clearance is there?
Can it go in with extractors on?
Any other tips.

This place is a great resource, I'm wrapped I finally found it.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:10 pm 
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Welcome aboard mate!

This is my experience in fitting a motor - complete!

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... ts&start=0

Much easier to drop in as a complete unit, especially with rad attached!!!

In regard to starting on the ground, aaron is the master at this.....

We simply cranked mine to see if it had oil pressure....didn't start it.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:07 pm 
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Cool thread.
I took a look at your website for some more photos and tips.

I got a funny feeling your car came off the production line at around the same time mine did. Same nice brown upholstery and all both Leyland S. Although I was under the impression mine came out with an 1100...

How do I get my hands on one of those lifting brackets? I was planning on rope or chain.

And how did you get the alloy on your gearbox etc looking like that? Did you paint it or go for some serious acid?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:25 pm 
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Goto supercheap and buy some u brackets in the trailer section. cut on side of it off and drill a secound hole ig enough to fit onto the front center head stud. other end gets attached to a u bolt and then to whatever your lifting it with. It isn't as nice as other lifting brackets but it is what i use and never had an issue.
In regards to what to fit. do the whole unit with all the bits and peices including radiator etc. you have heaps of room in a clubman engine bay. Tighter in a round nose and even worse in a moke... :cry:
Starting it on the floor is easy, and i was taught by doogie as to how to do it. Motor needs 2 things to start. power and fuel.
fuel, get a funnel and attach some fuel hose to it, with the other end feeding the carb. Pour in petrol. you will need to have the funnel on a stand higher that the motor.
power. atttach the positive side of a the coil to a car battery. then with jumper leads, attch the negetive to the earth strap. use the positve jumper lead to wind the starter motor. engine will fire as per normal.
Remember to do this you will need to have the heater hoses connected to each other. otherwise you will get wet. Also make sure you have primed the oil pump. and before starting wind it over to make sure you have oil pressure. Other wise your motor will not last long.

Good luck


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:57 pm 
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Cool I'll put together that lifting bracket.
Don't suppose anyone has a photo of that sort of bracket?

And now for some more stupid questions.

How do I prime an oil pump? I have heard of packing them with really light grease but It is kinda hard to get to with the engine and gearbox together.

How do you check the oil pressure? multimeter on the oil pressure sensor or do you actually attach a gauge?

I assume you could get the fuel pump in the mix and just have a fuel line going into a can rather than the funnel. (The funnel would get really messy if I were involved.)

Does the engine want to throw itself around the floor or anything? I assume you wouldn't rev it while it is there.

I noticed the starter was off in the photos on the link? Is this just to get some more inches?

Thanks for the advice. you guys rock.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:17 pm 
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Priming an oil pump if motor is pre built, you undo the nut above the oil filter pipe on the left of the motor. inside you will find a spring and under it a cone shaped plug. pop those out. tip the motor back and pour a decent amount of oil in. Refit in reverse.
Checking you have oil pressure.
Undo the pipe on the left hand side of the engine, just a touch. Crank over without power to the coil and stop the secound you see oil coming out the loose pipe. You have oil pressure. or attach a mechanical guage, that will tell you you hav oil pressure.
Motor won't throw itself round too much if it is only an 1100. 1275 and bigger it can get a little wild. just ask doogie.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:10 am 
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^^^ what he said! That's exactly what we did on mine.

If you have a rebuilt motor (new cam followers / reground cam) don't let it idle. Set the idle to 2000rpm and leave it like that for 10 minutes.


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