I think this is a fairly straight forward thing. Not all mini owners have mini's and if they do there not roadworthy. The Hay Mini Club Nationals is about the clubs and the people, and a common interest in the mini. No non mini has won it yet, so what's the complaint. Let people run what they have and or feel comfortable driving in the event. There's a show and shine for mini's and the derivatives. the motorkhana is an event for all comers, whats so wrong abut that. If you were to can no mini's, really moke's shouldn't be aloowed to run either. There not mini's and have never been marketed as a mini. They are mokes, it's not the Moke nationals yet there allowed to win arn't they

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At mini meet here is SA i saw the worst of the worst. Cars entered in both, best original and best modified! You shouldn't be able to enter in 2 catagories. I was beat in the best modified (although I don't consider my concourse by any means) by a car entered in both of those catagories.

I was not angry I didn't expect tpo win but confused.

Also the guy judging best modified had the most original looking (some mates of mine reckon it wasn't all that original, but I don't know much about originality) mini there, very odd indeed.

But the people who run the shows, make the decisions on how they want to run it, and want to judge it, if you don't like it don't go. Can't say I have any interest in going to Mini meet next year.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

mini mokes you mean?

If the category is Best Original Leyland then thats wat it should be, best original, not original but modified.

I most likely wont be taking Sally next year

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1978 Leyland Mini 998LS All Original *Sally*
2002 Mini Cooper *Coopa*

true, but you have to be able to drive to win GBS points. how many drivers can drive a rear wheel drive car that is bigger and heavier than a mini, FASTER than all but the top 10 drivers (this year) GBS is a nice thing to win, but the motorkhana is a drivers competiton.

In relation to a club not allowing members to compete under the banner, it makes me laugh, as a CAMS affliated clubs allow you to run your car, the club can say you can't run a non mini, but they sure as hell can't stop you either. there is no legal stand point for a club to do so. I personally wouldn't join a club that tells me what i can and can't do and that I HAVE to register early.

It's about the people who love mini's, not the love of the competition.

All this has been posted last year in the Hay thread and will be posted again next year too. so maybe, just maybe the knockers will eventually realise that it's not going to change. There the rules, complain to the orgainsers if you don't like it.

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Wasn't it won once in a Torana GTR XU-1??

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

stop trying to turn this into an argument, i have posted what i believe to be the facts and deliberately did not include my opinion.

there typically is only a couple of cars in the non mini classes and thats good odds of taking home some points or a trophy.

as far as the mini only club, no comment.

no argument here, just stating facts and opinions

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I think the non-mini khana entrants sholdnt included in points and run for exhibition only. Other clubs and groups do this with success

i dont think anyone has used enough of these yet:

You can enter your car in whatever category you like, you will be judged as that class. Its the owners choice if they enter a leyland into best original morris, etc. The car will be judged under the class its entered into and awarded points accordingly.

I think you should all go back and read page one of what Kyoda has written. Then go and read the Mini Experience with the feature on Hay.

HAY was born out of fun. Yes their was rivalry, but at the end of the day it was fun. As julie said, back in the day not everyone could get their mini to Hay, so they took their OTHER cars down.

As the event at that stage was as MUCH FOR FUN as it was for COMPETITION those without minis AT HAY were able to compete in NON MINI classes, because they were at HAY for the fun of meeting up with the other clubs.

Its always been competetive, but it has also always been fun.

If you really have a problem with the way the RULES RULES RULES (thats RULES for those that missed it) are, stop competing at HAY. It really is as SIMPLE as that.

(I have tried to use monosymbolic words - thats short words for those that dont understand - so that certain individuals can understand what I am saying)

IN SUMMARY.

HAY HAS RULES SET. THE SMART PEOPLE COMPETE WITHIN THE RULES. IF YOU ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO COMPETE WITHIN THE RULES DONT COME TO HAY.

ALL THIS JUST STINKS OF POOOOOOOR LOOOOOOOOSERS.

LOL - Good stuff Chris

I think these days, with Mini's getting rarer and more expensive, the bring what ya brung rule will get more important with time. Just my opinion.

It's just not the same if not in a Mini, thats for sure!

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