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Really. You are a font of knowledge. Tell us more.


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Shane Cassidy wrote:
According to the mini work shop manual some australian made mini's from 1969 made by layland did not have any numbers on the radiator houseing

Some cars in 1969 had no Body plate on the firewall (and no compliance plates were fitted until December 1969) but ALL had numbers on the radiator shroud.
Which workshop manual is it... :wink:

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Shane , a photo of it will help narrow the year down , also check the date stamped on the wiper motor , voltage regulator (if fitted , alternator might have been internally regulated) , boot lock and other components like starter motor , distributer , alternator if they are original . that should at least narrow the year down .

I would be wary of information from a British site unless it is specifically for the Australian built mini's as our numbering etc wass different to the UK versions .

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Shane Cassidy wrote:
The Brithish mini site has helped.

the munber is the body number

I doubt it. But I can help - it's a mini in all probability.

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Hey, lets go easy on the Noob!

If this info is stamped on the firewall (Bulkhead) behind the Master cylinders, my interpretaion would be:

M2 22 is I believe a the prefix for a Mini Clubman, (pre Leyland) the 003 could be the body number as suggested, Yes this might mean it could be Mini Clubman No 3? :shock:

It might follow that the actual car number could be around 500-501 higher than this? so YG2S7 503 or 504? Compliance date could be anything, but I would think around July 71?

I have seen reference to other early run cars not being stamped on the radiator shroud, I think the Mini car club (NSW) identification guide mentions this.

As for the PA, was this a pre production reference for early run cars? Production Approved?? :?

I would not be so bold as to suggest any of this (above) is correct, but also I would not state that "All cars have radiator shroud stamping" we all know how fickle procedures seem to have been around this time in the factory! :?


I would say, check for front end damage, does it look like the shroud / inner guard has been replaced, what does the plate on the L/H inner guard say?

Oh and make sure you take plenty of pics! I am very interested in this car!! :P

OK, I'm off to hide for when the argy bargy starts!! Help! :lol:

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Would body number 3 be stamped 003? Or would it be stamped 3?
I would bet that there is another digit in front of the 003 and that digit is hidden by the corrosion from the master cylinders. :lol:
My 1976 Leyland Mini S body is 7429 with the M2 and 22. The 7 is very, very hard to see.
The 22 stands for YDO22 which is the design code for the Mini Clubman. They kept the 22 stamping right through the Clubman/Leyland Mini S era.

I would like any further info on the M2 code. I have a few clues about Leylands codes but I need more.


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sports850 wrote:
I would be wary of information from a British site unless it is specifically for the Australian built mini's as our numbering etc wass different to the UK versions .


But what if the advice was from an Australian that frequents British sites?

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That would be OK Tim , hence my "unless it is specifically for the Australian built mini's" comment , I've known people to have broken up a UK mini's chassis code they found online into something resembling an Australian number and treat that as gospel to identify their Australian mini . They had assumed their mini was mis-stamped with a digit missing and they owned a Mk3 mini despite it having external hinges and being Australian made ....

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Well, not too badly flamed for my suggestions so far! :lol:

Morris 1100, thanks for your comments, I had not appreciated that the 22 was kept right through BMC and Leyland clubbies, I supose YDO22 makes sense.

I have asked someone with an early Clubman GT (in the first 5 cars) to comment, I believe the number on the bulkhead of that car is M2 23 00#, not just #

I have seen another car recently within the first twenty of a model series, it had PA 0##, below its M2 body pefix as well, it seems at least 3 numbers were stamped (until 4 numbers were required!)

I would love to know what the PA means???

Hope this all makes sense!! :lol: 8)

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Graham, I have been looking through P76 stuff and I can't find any reference to pre-production cars (like the surviving Force-7Vs) or early production cars having a special marking.

I did find that body numbers have a minimum of three digits so car 1 will be stamped 001. :lol: (you were right all along!)


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Cool! :D Thanks Morris :wink:

What has happened to the original poster....'Shane' ?

I want pics!! :roll:

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Thanks Graham...Your right its a mini club man,number 3 1971

Their will be no pic until it appears in Australian Classic Car Magazine when its finished its rebuild.....SORRY

Some WA Mini people will see it when they look at it to give advice.Then every one will see it at its first Round the Houses event

If you want to know more about Round the Houses events I have pics on my web site or visit www.vsccwa.com.au or www.warm.org.au

Thanks every one for your advice
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What is it with Leyland mini's and their numbers , just when you think you have a handle on them something else comes along ...

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It could be an imported Clubman with internal Hinges ?? Yes Maybe.

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It could be an imported Clubman with internal Hinges ?? Yes Maybe.
Not with M2 22 stamped on the firewall.


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