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The guides these days don't normally need reaming after fitting but the seats will need re-cutting.

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GT mowog wrote:
The guides these days don't normally need reaming after fitting but the seats will need re-cutting.

I beg to differ, if you use the bronze guides.
They close down in size a bit when fitted.
They tend to close even more after a heat cycle or two.
If/when they grab a valve, you will be real sorry... $$S wise. Ask some of the racers out there.
The bronze ones definitely need reaming (I use a new 9/32" solid reamer) after fitting. Then recut the seats.

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[/quote]Mate I spent the 1st 12 weeks of my apprenticeship filing and chipping steel. I have the callouses to prove it.
Did teach me how to file flat though. :wink:[/quote]

I'm guessing a railway apprentice Kev. as i did the same

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Mate I spent the 1st 12 weeks of my apprenticeship filing and chipping steel. I have the callouses to prove it.
Did teach me how to file flat though. :wink:[/quote]

I'm guessing a railway apprentice Kev. as i did the same[/quote]

Check. :wink: NSWGR, they still had some steam locos working way back then.

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drmini in aust wrote:
Aussie Brian wrote:
Mate I spent the 1st 12 weeks of my apprenticeship filing and chipping steel. I have the callouses to prove it.
Did teach me how to file flat though. :wink:


I'm guessing a railway apprentice Kev. as i did the same[/quote]

Check. :wink: NSWGR, they still had some steam locos working way back then.[/quote]

Yep it's a wonder that we're still kicking with all that asbestos lagging on those things

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So cast-iron guides don't shrink at all from the interference fit?? Seems at odds from what I was always told, which is that guides ALWAYS need reaming!

Does anyone cut their own valve seats, and if so could you point me towards a tool I could buy/borrow? Or is it not worth it and I should just head off to the machine shop instead?

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Cast iron guides don't shrink, I always try the solid reamer in them but nothing comes out.
If you want the best of both worlds, get your old guides K-lined.
These are a thin bronze liner that is fitted into your (machined out) old guides.
Costs around $140+ to get them done in Sydney.
I gave up cutting valve seats by hand years ago. I fit new guides, then head for Graham Russell.. 8)

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VulcanBB18 wrote:
So cast-iron guides don't shrink at all from the interference fit?? Seems at odds from what I was always told, which is that guides ALWAYS need reaming!

Does anyone cut their own valve seats, and if so could you point me towards a tool I could buy/borrow? Or is it not worth it and I should just head off to the machine shop instead?

cheers

Jacob


I always check the guides but in the last 10 or so years never had any that needed reaming.

I have a few Neway Valve seat cutters but they are a bit pricey if your only doing a few heads. Repco used to (still have?) a grinding type tool, a place I used to work at had one but I thought it crap as the ginding wheels where the wrong material and wouldn't hold there shape / angle, so the seat face ended up rounded rather than flat.

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The stones neen trimming to keem them at the correct angle/shape

I have hand seat-cutters here but i only use them as a rough guide/start to get the seats all sitting in the right spot/height,,, then have them stoned, blued & sucked :-) sounds kinda kinky hey? ;-)

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