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So Does that help identify it??
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Well I looked on the Wade, Camtech, & Waggott sites (the latter had no cam numbers at all) and no joy. 402 doesn't ring a bell to me.
I would go get it reground to a grind that works- then you know wtf it is. :lol:


Oh well. thats a bit of an uninteresting end to that mystery. :lol:


You could set your Cam up in a couple of "V" Blocks, stick a Cam Wheel on one end, and use a dial gauge to tell us all when the valves open, close, and what lift they have at the lobe. Come on, this is a mystery that you can solve for us!!

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d1ck0 wrote:

...., and use a dial gauge ......


Sorry here mate, you have to use cam followers, the geometry will be way way out......I check them in an engine block :wink:

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Come on, this is a mystery that you can solve for us!!

or not.....

Cheers,

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Haha :lol:
I like that enthusiasm. :D
Well, i have no idea how to measure it, but i would be more than happy to let anyone have a crack at figuring it out if they were keen. 8)



I think its about time i had another dig thru the boxxes again :D

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well i found a little container with random screws and other stuff, and guess what else i found.... Something that helps clear the engine size up a little.
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and while you're here, i have these little "bad boys" :lol: in amongst the parts.
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it seems to have most of the parts. Any ideas on what else would be needed if i was to put these guys on.

The previous owner fitted a brake booster, presumably in anticipation of fitting these disks, but having read a few threads on here the consensus seems to be that it is not really necessary.
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If that is the case i would rather remove it and gain the engine bay space back. As I am not too worried about having a firmer brake pedal. My old 72 clubman had un-boosted drums all round and that was fine.

Is there a big difference between un-assisted disks front, drums back and just un-assisted drums all round ???
And if i was to remove it, would i just need to disconnect the brake lines and reconnect them like this??
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Measure the diameter and thickness of those rotors. Pic is a bit dark but they look like 7" Cooper ones to me, not 7.5" Cooper S.
If so and you are fitting them, I WOULD keep the booster, and fit Greenstuff pads or better.

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Measure the diameter and thickness of those rotors. Pic is a bit dark but they look like 7" Cooper ones to me, not 7.5" Cooper S.
If so and you are fitting them, I WOULD keep the booster, and fit Greenstuff pads or better.

Well you were right ( again :roll: :lol: )
They are 7" , and 4.5mm thick

So are they a worthy upgrade ???? :?

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People including Vizard bag out 7" discs, but like any discs they have 1 major advantage over 2LS drums on a road car- they self adjust. 8)
I ran a set for years on my `76 Clubby hydro Minimatic Cooper 998 disc bitsa, they stopped fine with a PBR servo and a set of HF metal king pads. :P

Cooper won their class a couple of years running at Bathurst, so they are not THAT bad. But Cooper S ones are better and more durable.
If ya got em, run em I say.

[edit] post a pic of the pads. If they are the 997 `postage stamps', the calipers can be milled out (by me or others) to take the bigger 998 pads.

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here it is. :)

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OK those are the good later (998) ones.
But fit some decent pads- EBC Greenstuffs, Mintex M1144, etc.
998 pads get hot quicker than S pads do.

Rotors are only 1/4" thick (6.35mm) when new, toss them if under 6mm. Karcraft has new ones available for a bit over $100 each.
A while back, they were around $150+.... :shock:

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The modern brake pads are vastly superior to anything that was available when all the anti 7" stuff started.
I would be happy with 7" disc brakes on a Mini with modern performance pads.
I would only run a booster if I felt the pedal pressure was too high.


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ok, so the calipers are good, but the rotors are too worn to be used????

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4.5mm TOSS THEM!!!
illegal that thin.

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drmini in aust wrote:
4.5mm TOSS THEM!!!
illegal that thin.


Will do.

Thanks again for the help. :D

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I don't see any hubs for those brakes??

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I don't see any hubs for those brakes??

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You are correct. They are Amongst other necessary parts i do not have.

I figure once i got all that stuff plus new rotors i would be close to the price of a 7.5" setup anyway. So i might keep the drums for now and see what happens.

I might end up giving the 7" brakes a go, just cos they are so unloved.... I do like going for the underdog... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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