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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:31 am 
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Hi,

I am attempting to fit new rubber cross unis to the Shitbox Rally Van.

I popped off the top balljoint to get them into position, but I'm struggling to get the u-bolts slid home.

Any tips from someone who has done this job recently?

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probably need to bend the u-bolts "in" a bit

they often spread while in use

Oh!!! & don`t over tighten them

& also i`d be setting the car up with the axles in their "in-use" height,,, so rest the car onto it`s wheels before you try to tighten the u-bolt nuts

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good advice matt :D

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+1 for Matty's advice,

Also... new or old bolts? I've found some new bolts seriously wrong (far too wide)... so in went the old bolts with the new nuts :)

Oh... and... DON'T OVERTIGHTEN THEM!

sorry, just had to emphasise that point :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:40 pm 
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Just squeeze them up in a vice till they fit neatly/easily, check them in the yoke before trying to fit the joint.

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A viable alternative to the rubber joints is the QL5000 conversion, which uses a conventional Triumph TR6 Hardy Spicer joint with needle bearings, fitted with 4 nylon cups.
However I have it on good authority from a local distributor this week that Quinton Hazell in the UK (who supplied them) have recently gone broke and are in receivership. :cry:

If this is correct it will be a pity, they made & supplied quite a lot of Mini replacement parts.

[edit] see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-nort ... s-21360719

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Thanks guys, will give them a squeeze. Like a lot of things on this car, the original u-bolts were missing, so we are working with the new ones in the kit.

I have a set of the QL5000 conversion parts, but they are reserved for my Traveller. Watto and I agree they are not necessary for the Shitbox.

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Those QL5000 joints are heading towards Rocking Horse Poo material. I tried recently to find two new ones world wide with no luck. I got given one second hand and brought the a new joint with second hand cups. which wasn't cheap.

I my have to convert the next box I do to a hardie spicer set up as i have a couple of sets but only if I can find some side covers.


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VulcanBB18 wrote:
+1 for Matty's advice,

Also... new or old bolts? I've found some new bolts seriously wrong (far too wide)... so in went the old bolts with the new nuts :)

Oh... and... DON'T OVERTIGHTEN THEM!

sorry, just had to emphasise that point :mrgreen:

cheers,

Jacob


The original New old stock U bolts are still avail From Mini King

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John, do you have those plastic posts that go between the van tank and the body?

We need some of them quite urgently!

Thanks,

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bnicho wrote:
John, do you have those plastic posts that go between the van tank and the body?

We need some of them quite urgently!

Thanks,

Yes I have both types in stock , Send Me a PM if You Like
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PM sent John.

Cheers,
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Problem solved the easy way.

Watto fitted the Unis today while I was at work!

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kiwiinwgtn wrote:
Those QL5000 joints are heading towards Rocking Horse Poo material. I tried recently to find two new ones world wide with no luck. I got given one second hand and brought the a new joint with second hand cups. which wasn't cheap.

I my have to convert the next box I do to a hardie spicer set up as i have a couple of sets but only if I can find some side covers.


PM sent.

I can modify `meaty' Oz std sidecovers into Cooper S ones. I did some last year for Mini King.

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drmini in aust wrote:
kiwiinwgtn wrote:
Those QL5000 joints are heading towards Rocking Horse Poo material. I tried recently to find two new ones world wide with no luck. I got given one second hand and brought the a new joint with second hand cups. which wasn't cheap.

I my have to convert the next box I do to a hardie spicer set up as i have a couple of sets but only if I can find some side covers.


PM sent.

I can modify `meaty' Oz std sidecovers into Cooper S ones. I did some last year for Mini King.


yes there are 2 castings for these,,, some are thicker around the seal & bush area & those are the ones that can be machined out to fit the bigger bush & seal into

ya cant really miss them when you have a look,,, we have quite a few thick ones here Doc , if you ever need some more,,, both the early type & the roddy type

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