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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:56 pm 
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will a Moke with no rollbar pass an inspection at a motor registry?

Edit - a 1982 moke


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Yes.
It's not a rollbar. It's a 3 point seatbelt mount. If you have lap belts you're all good.

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Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?

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Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!


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PDJ wrote:
Yes.
It's not a rollbar. It's a 3 point seatbelt mount...


Why do people always say that?

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I guess because that's what it officially was, a way to mount the seat belts and was never designed as a crash/rollover device.... :?

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Monaco wrote:
Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!


Wrong.
The car has a set of ADRs which relate to it, and it is illegal to decrease the standard of safety of a vehicle - seatbelts included.


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willy wrote:
Monaco wrote:
Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!


Wrong.
The car has a set of ADRs which relate to it, and it is illegal to decrease the standard of safety of a vehicle - seatbelts included.

Your both right in theory.
If the car came from factory like that then it's still fine. But if the car orgionally had 3 point belts you can not change back to lap belts.

Best bet is to look up the ADR codes on the compliance plate, you have to comply with or better.

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I am Reasonably sure That the Moke was Registered as a Comercial vechicle
and the ADR's were different to passenger cars, Hence it is rare to find Mokes
after 1978 that has a seating capacity of more than Two

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John Smidt wrote:
I am Reasonably sure That the Moke was Registered as a Comercial vechicle
and the ADR's were different to passenger cars, Hence it is rare to find Mokes
after 1978 that has a seating capacity of more than Two


I believe John is right - Mokes were registered as 2 seater commercial vehicles - two shells I have were ex-rentals from the central coast and have compliance plates certifying then as having been converted to 4 seater

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Kennomini wrote:
I guess because that's what it officially was, a way to mount the seat belts and was never designed as a crash/rollover device.... :?


Leyland referred to it as a roll bar.

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willy wrote:
Monaco wrote:
Kennomini wrote:
Is it legal to only have lap belts in a 1982 car?


Yes, if that is how it left the factory - like most non-Californians!


Wrong.
The car has a set of ADRs which relate to it, and it is illegal to decrease the standard of safety of a vehicle - seatbelts included.


Right actually.

No one said anything about reducing the spec. Non-Cali mokes only had lap belts. In fact some Cali's did not have roll bars! They had compliance plates with lap belts and that is all that is required today.


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