here you go..

one honda civic...


one rotary...



people put honda engines in minis....

rotary engine in a honda.....

a bit of maths.... a bit of cutting and..

more links

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... 9&start=45

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... c&start=15

The problem was the layout of the engine, gearbox and differential had to be set out in the same orientation as the original engine. This was the rule that led to Geoghegan running two Hewlands in his Monaro and a change to this rule led to the end of the Gardiner/Grice Corvair. The rotary mini with a Hewland does not run the driveline in the right format to be legal.

so from reading the other topics cushway posted....

12a seems the way togo?

if so.... ur up for a new subframe.... brakes......d/shafts....etc

would much cutting of the body be required....

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it was pushing on the edge of being legal when he built it but by the 80s it was totally legal as the rules were changed to allow a new generation of cars to be built like the Saabs and Camiras to be built from front drive to rear drive, Paul was only not allowed to run it in Supermini racing because they had a rule where the originally gearbox case had to be used hence Warwick Agustins car had the toyota driving through a mini box,

Jon

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How would a rule that allows front wheel drive cars to be converted to rwd make any difference? It would have been ok if it was converted to front engine rear drive but it was still not legal as a front wheel drive under the rules.

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By the fact that the rules allowed the engine and gearbox configuration to be changed, the types of cars bing built had a new set of rules laid down in the Cams manual for the type of layout/config for building cars. If they had not allowed the gearbox engine config to be changed the Saabs, Calibra's, Camira's,preludes and the like woud not of been built without the gearbox beside the engine just like a east/west config, once changed for them the mini was totally legal as gearbox location became totally free

Jon

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Yeah... you are quite right. Ahhh memories.... remember the Corvair "apparently" had sandbags over the rear wheels in the "wet". That could be one of those myths too, but Gardner did some amazing stuff.

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I would recommend reading the CAMS manuals over the different years just to see what the rule book does in fact say.

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not only did I have to read the cams manuals as a scrutineer for all those years, Cams issued the car a log book to race with it in this configuration and it was raced without being logged in NSW, Vic ,QLD and SA, as stated in my previous posts it could not run in the Supermini series because of the gearbox rule but it had no problem as a sports sedan

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A scrutineer, that explains why you can't read a rule book.

Tappets was logged a few times with that car, I was at Amaroo when it was logged once. A chief scrutineer had it in for the car.

CAMS used to issue log books to any car. You did not even have to have a car to have a log book! I know of a few cars that had multiple books so that if it was logged in one book they would just use another book.

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And I know who the scrutineer was, it was Lance and it had nothing to do with the way the car was built, he just hated mini's and one of his favourite things was to write up every mini for the flares or anything he thought he could get away with cause we srutineers know how you car builders and owners read the rule book

Hey you at least had to have a picture of a car to get a log book there are still a few cars out there running on there 8 or 9 body after an accident running on an old log book shhhssssssssssssssssss no one would be doing that now would they

It was not the first mid engined FWD there was the mini with a 179 holden engine, went like the clappers in a straight line but refused to go round corners

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Wasn't Lance. I better not say who it was.

It was only illegal because of the gearbox, if it used a gearbox with the diff on the other side of the gearbox it would have been legal (or more legal!)

would you two get a room....

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Oh well i better go and and make 75% of the sports sedans running around illegal with you reading of the rules I am sure they will all be happy

The car has been sold and run two different owners to my knowledge since those days without the configuration being changed and has been in a garage in Vic for many years now.

Jon

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Roundies and Clubbies(except vans) are both ugly that is why I have Midas and a van
1293 Mini Midas Bronze,1275 Clubman van